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pogue 2 hours ago [-]
This sounds an awful lot like Microsoft's Recall, only implemented in the browser.

Granted, there have been a lot of times I have trouble finding a website in my history, open tabs or even bookmarks, so I could potentially see how that might be advantageous as long as I was in a situation where I had a second browser for "non-work" related tasks, or this was strictly prohibited in in-private mode.

>4. Find webpages you previously visited

>For those frustrating instances when you want to jump back into a past project but don’t want to scroll through your history to find an important website you previously visited, soon you’ll be able to use Gemini in Chrome to recall it for you. Once launched, you can try prompts like “what was the website that I saw the walnut desk on last week?” or “what was that blog I read on back to school shopping?”

As for their "agentic browsing assistant", I don't have much trouble adding stuff to my shopping cart or other minor tasks. I'm still waiting on that 'Google Duplex' [1] feature they announced years ago that claimed Google would make phone calls for me to make appointments and etc. Make a doctor's appointment? Dispute a charge on my bill? That's what I want.

[1] https://youtu.be/D5VN56jQMWM

Scene_Cast2 1 hours ago [-]
I find that Chrome has a fairly crippled history by default (worse than any other browser I've ever used). It's so bad that I ended up installing a history extension. Works much better.
pogue 50 minutes ago [-]
Which one?

I mostly have trouble keeping too many browser tabs open on mobile. Granted, I use Brave & it now organizes closed tabs. On desktop, it has a similar Ai feature for tab management to the one Google described, but it's still not great.

I'd honestly appreciate some kind of AI tab management, history/bookmarks saving, summarizing & organizing that would put my old tabs to some kind of reading list that would remind me what I never closed down the line, archive the links I visited & my bookmarks incase of linkrot they would still be saved. Make sure if I was writing a comment on Reddit or similar site, saved it as a draft, etc, etc. That kind of "Smart" browser management system, that I could preferably run myself or had some privacy guarantees (for whatever they're worth) would definitely something I'd consider paying for.

ugh123 12 minutes ago [-]
Taking a quick test spin. Seems to be enabled (on mac) by the existing "Gemini in Chrome" extension. Which has a global shortcut (across all mac apps) of "Ctrl+g" (this can be changed). The additional AI features seem to come from the tab content's integration into the Gemini console (previously (I believe) the Gemini extension was merely a thin console to the Gemini service)).

The direct tab integration works by first showing the Gemini console (ctrl-g or Gemini icon in the mac system tray) where there is then a 'Share current page' icon below the text view.

This adds a blue border around the chrome window indicating the current page can be shared with chrome. It's not clear, but I believe the page content is only shared once a prompt is made intending to use the page's content. However, the share-enablement remains enabled for all tabs (all tab windows will have the blue border) until turned off in the Gemini consol. Again, it's not clear if just merely browsing these tabs will automatically share that content with Google.

The Gemini integration does not perform actions (can't ask it to do stuff directly with the site's content (navigate, click buttons, etc).

But direct summarization works well (try it on an HN comment page or news article).

the_snooze 4 minutes ago [-]
>It's not clear, but I believe the page content is only shared once a prompt is made intending to use the page's content.

If it's only processing page content as the user requests it, then how would feature 4 "Find webpages you previously visited" work? Seems like it would need to process everything in order to enable prompt-based content recall.

wrs 47 minutes ago [-]
It is astonishing that the word “privacy” appears zero times in this announcement. There have been repeated controversies over exactly how Google sees just the URL I visit. Now they want to see the entire contents of multiple browser tabs?
M4v3R 31 seconds ago [-]
Yeah it’s insane they’ve totally ignored the privacy issue. Either they’re doing everything on device, which I doubt, or this is the biggest privacy disaster ever waiting to happen.
janalsncm 17 minutes ago [-]
You are right about the omnibox changes.

But the security enhancements appear to be using Gemini nano which can run on device. They kind of buried that detail though.

https://store.google.com/intl/en/ideas/articles/gemini-nano-...

thw_9a83c 2 hours ago [-]
Sometimes I wish companies would stop forcing AI features down our throats and putting them just everywhere. At least I hope I can properly disable all of this. I don't need an AI agent scanning everything behind my back.
gspencley 50 minutes ago [-]
AI is just the current incarnation of the hype train cycle.

I've never been a big fan of smart phones and I remember in the early 2010s the "mobile revolution" was in full tilt and it even impacted the Linux experience. I ended up switching from Ubuntu to Mint because they went all in on "mobile + touch-screens are the future!" and released this god awful UI update that was reminiscent of Windows 8.

We need business to drive innovation ... but there is bad with the good (and vice versa - we shouldn't forget that either). When something gets "hot" the business world will always go all in on the trend and "force" it down everyone's throats. It's driven partly by fear: "If I don't offer this to my customers, my competitors will and I will fail." The rest is the normal pursuit of profit, which isn't a bad thing IMO but it means there's a lot of: "There's a pie here and if we don't get our slice someone else will."

Nzen 53 minutes ago [-]
It looks like [0] access to gemini will only be for subscribers, given that it costs them money. This is, "of course", distinct from ai mode [1] in google search that happens from the address bar in chrome. The first video implies that the difference involves throwing the current web page into the query as context so someone can ask "is this recipe gluten-free?" on a recipe webpage.

[0] https://blog.google/products/gemini/gemini-app-updates-io-20...

[1] https://blog.google/products/search/google-search-ai-mode-up...

WhereIsTheTruth 1 hours ago [-]
Just use chromium
M4v3R 6 minutes ago [-]
This seems huge to me. As in: the initial release of Google Chrome huge. I don’t know if they can really pull off things they showed but if they do I’m sure this will be a massive success. Which is pretty sad considering the privacy implications for this. Imagine how much more data they will have on everyone. Scary.
moralestapia 2 minutes ago [-]
>As in: the initial release of Google Chrome huge.

Nope, not even 0.01% of that.

cons0le 57 minutes ago [-]
I don't want any of this crap. We need to push for the right to opt out of AI features. All of this garbage should be opt in.
m4rtink 36 minutes ago [-]
Rather, this should be opt-in from the start with serious disclaimers what it does and what it has access to.
salomonk_mur 54 minutes ago [-]
You don't want automatic browsing of tedious tasks? I really do.
cons0le 14 minutes ago [-]
Not if it's not local. I don't want my browser to be an automated snitch for palantir
mort96 43 minutes ago [-]
Automating tedious tasks is great, as long as it's reliable. We know how to build reliable integrations and reliable automations. Making chat bots a page and click buttons it thinks will do the right thing is never gonna be reliable.
robofanatic 44 minutes ago [-]
I certainly don’t want AI to buy groceries for me while I’m “busy” doing something else.
brazukadev 50 minutes ago [-]
like what, reading & commenting on HN?
kixiQu 31 minutes ago [-]
Can I block it as a site host? (Please don't respond about how I shouldn't want to and isn't it just like some other usecase that I'd obviously want not to block)
reclusive-sky 2 hours ago [-]
Some of these features would be nice to have, but I'm not sure I even want my browser to have these capabilities unless there is a mechanism to keep it all local. This is a monumental change to the amount of user data Google can collect via Chrome.
thw_9a83c 58 minutes ago [-]
> ...unless there is a mechanism to keep it all local

I'm not sure the Google is a trustworthy party [0] to believe when they give you some hard-to-find option to keep data local and not use it for user profiling and ad targeting. Google is essentially a data mining business. Some opportunities are simply hard for them to resist.

[0]: <https://www.consumerreports.org/electronics/privacy/google-s...>

iruoy 2 hours ago [-]
Funny how this announcement comes days after Google learned that it didn't need to sell Chrome
gl-prod 1 hours ago [-]
Oh, look a wild Microsoft Recall appears, sure I want the AI to know my browser history and what I do on the web
dmix 1 hours ago [-]
That agentic stuff is going to be a big deal. Probably the most interesting part of LLMs besides coding. Assuming it works well
jstummbillig 59 minutes ago [-]
The interesting part about this variant is, that it's actually happening in my browser. I can't see how else this is going to happen, for various real world reasons. This feels actually tangible and potentially useful. With ChatGPT I am just confused about when/why I would press "Agent".
andrei_says_ 1 hours ago [-]
How does one disable this feature?
rogerbinns 39 minutes ago [-]
Apparently using Linux does the trick too. I have no idea what technical limitation exists to prevent the code from working on Linux.
christophilus 1 hours ago [-]
By installing LibreWolf.
ruralfam 2 hours ago [-]
Not a comment re: AI in Chrome. I did click into the video to hopefully get an understanding of the features,. but sadly did not. Sorta got an idea, but the jump cuts, super-quick overviews, trying to identify everyone speaking, etc. E.g. ...something about tabs... ...used to take 20 minutes, now seconds... ...working with OTHER Google products (WTH)... Hey Google, make a simpler, more accessible video that is "just the facts mam". Dozens of jump cuts in a few minutes is disconcerting, and may prove dangerous to some.
everdrive 45 minutes ago [-]
Does anyone know if Chromium is spared of these features?
ugh123 21 minutes ago [-]
If built from source, likely yes. https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/
liquid_thyme 1 hours ago [-]
A lot of these new AI features can be helpful as long as the users' control the data. Is there an alternate world where Google might become the good guy here? In this world, as might be expected, the company making the worlds best spyware, wants to expand its spying.
xg15 1 hours ago [-]
When the webpage AI argues with the browser AI, which argues with the OS AI which argues with the on-chip mainboard, CPU and GPU AIs, while the monitor AIs frantically try to make notes and the smarthome AI watches all of it and can only shake its metaphorical head.
keyboardJones 2 hours ago [-]
Very interested to see how well the agentic features work compared to ChatGPT’s cloud version. At the very least, I imagine bot detection/prevention (I.e., CAPTCHA) will be less of issue with Google’s strategy since the browser’s fingerprint will differ Chrome user to Chrome user.
jari_mustonen 2 hours ago [-]
So they integrate Gemini to summarize open web pages and consolidate all your open tabs into summaries. (Open lot's of pages, then summarize them all.) You can search your history with natural language and type Gemini queries directly into the address bar.

This will give them a cognitive profile of you: reading comprehension, decision-making patterns, knowledge gaps, etc.

Scary.

vorticalbox 1 hours ago [-]
Stack that with how you write (drive, emails, everything you post on the internet) to gain a writing fingerprint too.

I can imagine a bad actor getting hold of this putting it into a LLM given all this how would I manipulate this person to do x,y,z.

lawlessone 1 hours ago [-]
>Combat more sophisticated scams with Gemini Nano

Fantastic, Googles AI will be fighting to stop the scams Googles advertising promotes to me...

hellcow 2 hours ago [-]
Another showcase of Google using their dominant market position for Chrome to gain advantage in other markets, like AI agents.
m4r71n 2 hours ago [-]
I tend to agree. If this was built as a true browser enhancement, it would allow you to select the model of your choice or even plug it into a locally running LLM. This being exclusive to Gemini just juices up their usage numbers to make their investments more justifiable. I wonder if Firefox will ever introduce any similar features.
rambojohnson 2 hours ago [-]
> I wonder if Firefox will ever introduce any similar features.

I hope they never do. Nobody’s asking to have AI shoved down their throats, spying on them and profiling everything they do.

pogue 2 hours ago [-]
Firefox does have that and you can choose from different models or even a local one (last time I checked)!

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/ai-chatbot

m4r71n 7 minutes ago [-]
Not quite the same thing. Google's features seem to give the model the ability to control the browser, not just act upon the text within a given web page.
glenstein 1 hours ago [-]
Is it integrated into the browser at all or is it basically a browser tab?
pogue 2 hours ago [-]
If only there was some law that prohibited monopolistic practices like these that could prevent or stop something like that from happening that could be enforced by a branch of the government... *sigh* just a utopian pipe dream, I suppose
scrollop 49 minutes ago [-]
They're all wearing shades of green.
HardCodedBias 1 hours ago [-]
Seems reasonable TBH.

I don't know the future of browsers given the trends in AI, but it seems fine to add an opt in ability to browsers to allow an LLM to access the current (or a set) of tabs. If it works it would reduce the amount of copy-paste, which seems like a good thing.

It's hardly a killer feature. I'm still going to use chatgpt (and gemini) a tremendous amount.

akomtu 1 hours ago [-]
More AI spyware running on user devices?
dmix 1 hours ago [-]
They dont need LLMs to spy on you. Their ad network and google analytics is already everywhere on the internet and mobile.
bapak 1 hours ago [-]
Are you kidding me!? We are living in the future and the first thing we (have to) worry about is that something will be used against us.

I really want the 2008 Google where everything they made was welcomed and not hated on sight.

Agentic browser? This. is. what. I. want.

Asking the browser about "that specific thing I might have seen last week?" Sign me the f up!

I'm not being sarcastic, I really wish I could have all of this and not having to worry about antagonistic companies and governments.

thehamkercat 59 minutes ago [-]
are you sure that you're not being sarcastic?
bapak 53 seconds ago [-]
It seems you failed to read my comment.

You don't want your computer to help you with your daily tasks?

ActionHank 2 hours ago [-]
This will surely bring the users back after killing adblockers /s
deckar01 51 minutes ago [-]
The AI mode does seem to be free of ads. The grocery shopping use case seems ridiculous, yet is telling. What kind of compensation might they get for agents putting promoted products in your cart?